Interview: Mark Sobel
1991 Dark Shadows Director
 

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Mark Sobel directed the final two episodes of the 1991 Dark Shadows, facing the challenges of a period production and a epic finale on a television budget. We look back at his work on the show...

Tell us a little about your early career...
Dark Shadows was one of my first projects. I'd done several other shows, such as The Equalizer and Quantum Leap. Dark Shadows was approached a little differently to a typical one hour series. Each director was given two consecutive episodes, but would shoot them as though it were a single two-hour movie. That allowed for things to be scheduled more efficiently, and also it was just more fun to approach the project as a movie
.

How did you get the job on Dark Shadows?
Basically Dan Curtis was looking for directors with a strong visual sense. Not the hand-held kind of visual - which is also a lot of fun to do - but in the epic sense. He had one of the executives at MGM Television screen the reels of literally every director working in primetime television in Hollywood, narrowing down the directors that seemed to meet that criteria. And then, from that group Dan selected just four to come onto the show.

Had you ever watched the original show?
I had never seen the original show as a kid, because the local ABC affiliate wouldn't carry it - seemed to scare too many kids! Therefore I really had no preconception about how to approach the show, other than watching the first several hours that Dan had directed in order to try to keep a consistent look.

Your episodes took place in the past and present, with many dual roles for the cast. Did this present problems, and how were they solved?
The production problems of dealing with the past and present were never really solved during my two hours. The crew and I would frequently stand around having to wait for actors to complete the complex make-up and wardrobe changes. Normally on a show things would have been scheduled to shoot with one group of actors while the others were in make-up, wardrobe and hair - but by the last two hours the schedule was just so complicated that there were many instances where this just couldn't be compensated for. That put quite a lot of pressure on trying to stay on schedule. Of course a television schedule for this opus was never realistic to begin with!

The end of the season was plagued with overruns behind the scenes...
The series indeed had overruns, and one of the difficulties with directing the final two hours was that it was up to me to try to absorb the difficulties of the past and still come in on schedule. I would not be honest if I didn't say that it occasionally created a certain amount of tension, because there were no tomorrows. As the schedule would slip here and there, and it became clear to me that there was simply nowhere to try to pick up the lost time, I literally pleaded with Dan to split the company up into three simultaneous units for a few days!
Dan directed one unit - the courtroom scenes, which was a major load to get off of my plate - and our producer Armand Mastroianni took one of the other units. Armand is a terrific director.

Each unit would borrow actors and crew members from the other as needed. I seem to recall that we worked that way for about three days. At first people were nervous about the idea - that we'd be spreading ourselves too thin. But because all three units were at the same location, it worked out quite well. I wouldn't want to have to work that way too often - it feels too much like grinding out sausage with a factory like that - but it did the job.

What were the cast like to work with?
By the time I came on board to direct the final two episodes, the cast was quite exhausted. The show was very difficult from a production point-of-view, and also required that sets be filled with a mist most of the time which would make the physical conditions very humid.

One of the great thrills for me was getting to work with the legendary actress Jean Simmons (Elizabeth), whose work in films I have so admired. It was wonderful to talk with her about some of her great films and hear anecdotes about her career. Just getting to work with her was worth the price of admission alone.

I was also quite impressed to see Roy Thinnes (Roger) in such a completely different role, as the Reverend Trask. He is such a fine actor, and I don't think that he had been given the opportunity to show the range of his talent in most of the series he had previously done. Because most of my two hours took place in the 1700s, it was hard for me at times to even connect with the actors that I was working with in real life, since their appearances were so completely transformed.

Roy was also great because he was such a calming influence in the midst of a lot of pressure and bedlam - as most filmmaking is! I'll never forget when we had just finished shooting a scene in which Roy, as Trask, was manacled to a brink wall, while Barnabas and Ben brick him up into a living tomb - that scene was enormously fun to shoot! After we finished and I had set up a scene on the next set, I strolled back to where we had bricked up Roy… just to get away from all the noise and think about the next scene. The set was dark now, and I slowly walked behind the front wall - and saw Roy there, still hanging by his manacles! I didn't really think twice about it. I said "Hi Roy," and he said "Hi Mark." Then I started to stroll away, when Roy gently called out, "Mark, can I come down yet?"

I did a double take. I swear that I am not making up a word of this! We had literally forgotten him after that last brick was put in place and I said "cut". We just all moved to the next set, and Roy, always the gentleman, and unsure of what was going on out front, waited until he was officially released from the set. In fact, the Trask scenes were always my favorite to shoot, because they were already so outside of our everyday reality that you could do anything creative and get away with it. And Roy was a prince to work with.

Budgetary restrictions forced the crew to shoot almost entirely at the Greystone mansion (Collinwood) - how did the production team make it work?
The transformation of Greystone mansion in Beverly Hills was accomplished by our incredible production designer Bryan Ryman. Bryan was just amazing at what he could do on a tight budget. Overnight one area of the mansion would turn into something else - you'd never know it was the same place just to look at it. Brian also built this incredible crypt set in the parking lot. Because I wanted one wall available to be pulled out so that I could get the camera in places that it otherwise would not fit, we'd shoot in that set only at night. It was great to have such grandiose sets to play with. Bryan deserved an Emmy.

The set-piece of Josette's suicide must have been quite a challenge...
The scene in which Josette meets Barnabas to be wed, but then ends up racing away and jumping to her doom, was one of the most creative sequences in the show to direct. All that mist pouring down the staircase and the candlelights - it was very surreal. I tried to shoot it with lots of little camera moves and interesting angles. Plus some pretty wide shots to get a feeling for just how cool the whole set looked. It was actually shot very early on in my schedule. I was very happy with the way that whole sequence went together. I tried to make it feel like something out of an old Hammer horror movie.

What did you think of the finished show?
I thought that the last two hours of Dark Shadows looked like a theatrical movie - as did the whole mini-series. In fact, you probably could have released it as a feature and done great box office. There was something epic about it - perhaps because by the last two hours it was practically entirely set in the 1700s with all of that production value. And of course, a great deal of credit for that goes to our director of photography for an incredible lighting job, and the entire art department. It is so rare to have a chance in television to shoot with epic style, especially today - it costs too much. Dark Shadows was a very big production on par with a feature, and to have experienced this early on in my career was quite a thrill.

What have you been doing since Dark Shadows ended?
Soon after Dark Shadows, I moved into television pilots. I had one show run for five seasons - The Commish starring Michael Chiklis - and then I moved into network and cable movies.
Right now I am completing an independent feature called The Commission, which takes the formerly top secret transcripts from the investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy. It recreates what was really said and done behind closed doors within the government, that no one was supposed to learn about for 75 years, until 2039. It is a very personal project, and I think an important one. I wrote, directed and edited.

I hope that it finds a way into the theatrical system in 2005 - tough for an independent feature, although it stars some wonderful actors such as Martin Landau, Sam Waterston, Martin Sheen etc. The genre of American Political Docu-Narrative seems to have become commercially viable very recently, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Most Americans have no idea of what happened, because the quietly declassified transcripts haven't been published. If the truth of that investigation had become known decades ago, the knowledge might have prevented many political scandals and cover-ups in the decades to follow.

A new Dark Shadows pilot was produced earlier this year. Do you have any thoughts on what a modern version of the show should reflect?
I wouldn't want to second guess Dan on what a new Dark Shadows should be. It has been his baby since it began. I was glad that he gave me a chance to be a part of something so much fun, and so completely creative. Television can feel so much like it is being rubber-stamped out at times - especially these days as cheap programming replaces the more expensive one-hour drama format. It was great to have a chance to work on something so expensive, epic and lavish. As Orson Welles once said, "A movie studio is the best toy a little boy ever had." I've really been blessed.

To read about Mark's latest film, The Commission, click here.

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